To anyone who has listened for a minute or an hour while going for a long drive or shopping or going for a walk; to anyone who has shared their story with us in an interview or in the comments section or a voice-message or a facebook-message: thank you. You made it possible for us to celebrate our one-year anniversary with an open mic night at Words Matter Bookstore in Pitman, NJ this past August 3, and for us to have a simultaneous event online for people who could not join us in person.
Catching up on some pleasure-reading or shamelessly posing with our next book-club selection? Why not both!
Today’s podcast-drop is a little different from our usual fare; we are going to take you inside those two events, kicking it off with the four of us (Adam, Andrew, and Mary on location at Words Matter, with Erika joining us via Zoom from Florida) talking about our progress over the last year and sharing our own answers to the questionnaire we give all of our interviewees (minimal violent disagreement when we start talking about which books we do and don’t like).
After that you’ll get a listen to the amazing works of original poetry recited at the two events by denizens and regular visitors to The Ivory Tower Boiler Room, as well as by people we had never met before from around southern New Jersey, near Words Matter. We are so glad that they shared their voices with us, and, after witnessing their courageous and original performances, we hope to get to know them better.
The in-person event, hosted by Adam and Andrew and crewed by Mary, could not have been the success it was without the amazing work of Keryl at Words Matter Bookstore, and the Zoom-based-event, hosted by Erika, could not have been the success it was without Erika’s trusty co-hosts, Cameron McLeod Martin and Tiffany Sowa.
And it goes without saying (but we’re going to say it anyway) that the amazing readers in both events deserve a round of applause, and then another one after that.
-an untitled poem by Marco Romeo (read by the poet) –“Five Realizations in Art Therapy” by Sophia K. (read by the poet) -“On Butterfly Wings” by Sean Wolff (read by the poet) -“Teachers” (read by Kathy Rimby, yes Andrew’s mom) -“Taken Away” Paula Camacho (read by David Rimby, yup Andrew’s dad) -an untitled poem by Sarah Ortiz (read by the poet) -“Lighthouse in Disuse” by Julia Cassel (read by the poet) -“Waterscribbles” by Diana (read by the poet) -“The Orange” by Wendy Cope (read by Abby Haley) -“Shut Not Your Doors” by Walt Whitman (read by Andrew Rimby) -“PTSD” by Chandler Touchstone (read by the poet) -“Something for Them” by Halsey (read by Mary DiPipi) -“Song” by Allen Ginsberg (read by Adam Katz) -“Waves” by Adam Katz (read by the poet)
The Open Mic Poetry Virtual Lineup
-“Run” by A.K. (read by the poet, Ann Kaiser) -“If” by Rudyard Kipling (read by Tiffany Sowa) -“untied” by Erika Grumet (read by the poet) -“Burger King Crown” by Cameron McCleod Martin (read by the poet) -“The Night I Shattered in Order to be Reborn” by Camille Sowa (read by the poet)
Our Podcast Guest Questionnaire 1. What are you reading now? 2. What is something you have read and loved, and wish more people would read? 3. You’re taking a sick day from work. What movie are you putting on? 4. What’s a book everyone says you should read, but you either read it and disliked it, or haven’t read it?
Responses from the Attendees
Name: Marco Romeo 1. High Concept 2. I’m Dying Up Here 3. Uncut Gems 4. The Selfless Art of Not Giving a F@!k
Name: Unknown/Anonymous 1. The Four Agreements 2. The Plague-Camus 3. Disney’s Soul 4. Unanswered
Name: Kathy Rimby 1. The Soul of a Woman by Isabel Allende 2. This is the Fire by Don Lemon 3. Miss Congeniality or Overboard (with Goldie Hawn) 4. My teacher’s group chose 2 that don’t appeal to me at all: The Shoemaker’s Wife and Lady Clementine
Name: Unknown/Anonymous 1. Winning Ugly by Brad Gilbert and Steve Jamison 2. Of Mice and Men 3. Rocky 4. unanswered
Name: Unknown/Anonymous 1. Bacchanal by Veronica G. Henry 2. Palimpsest by Catherynne Valente 3. Howl’s Moving Castle 4. unanswered
Name: Sean Wolff 1. Original “On Butterfly Wings” 2. Emily Dickenson’s poetry 3. Practical Magic 4. unanswered
Name: Abby 1. Once Upon a Time I Lived on Mars by Kate Greene and My Year Abroad by Chang-rea Lee 2. The Old Man Who Read Love Stories by Wis Spulveda 3. The Half of It 4. Disliked: The Great Gatsby. Haven’t read: Girl, Woman, Other
Name: Sarah Ortiz 1. Ovid-Love Poems 2. Metamorphoses 3. Singing in the Rain 4. War and Peace
Name: David Rimby 1. Life is Magic (Jon Dorenbos with Larry Platt) 2. Life is Magic 3. Rocky I 4. Jackie Robinson, My Own Story (hasn’t read it but wants to)
Name: Renata Leo 1. Lies 20 Somethings Need to Stop Believing 2. A Separate Peace-I had to read it for school in high school, but it meant so much to me. 3. No movies! Sitcoms only. 4. I haven’t read the A Touch of Darkness series yet, but it’s on the list.
Name: Molly 1. Outlander series, and just finished The Secret Life of Bees (loved it) 2. Catcher in the Rye 3. Depends on my mood. 4. The Old Man and the Sea
Name: Unknown/Anonymous 1. Janet Evanovich-Twenty-Four (reading it for fun) 2. Anything by James Lee Burke, Michael Connelly, John Grisham, Sue Grafton, James Patterson, John Sandford…I could go on… 3. Something Indie 4. So many books, so little time
Name: Unknown/Anonymous 1. This is the Fire by Don Lemon 2. Books by John lewis 3. Christmas in Connecticut 4. A Clockwork Orange
Name: Unknown/Anonymous 1. Billy Summers 2. Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell 3. Shawshank Redemption 4. Just Mercy by Bryan Stephenson
Name: Sofia K. 1. To Sleep in a Sea of Stars by Christopher Paolini 2. Jonathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach 3. Harry Potter 4. Game of Thrones (never read but recommended)
Name: Dan Teats (instagram: hope_grows_here) 1. Clarity and Connection by Yung Pueblo 2. Inward by Yung Pueblo 3. Dramas like Things we Lost in the Fire or Terminator, no in-between! 4. The Bible
Name: Lauren 1. Atlantis Gene – A. G. Riddle 2. The Parable of the Sower – Octavia Butler 3. random TV 4. War and Peace
Just a reminder that we have our October Book Club so please RSVP to ivorytowerboilerroom@gmail.com.
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We’ve brought you a month of various birthday celebrations, in writing and on the podcast. We’re wrapping up August by bringing you selections from our open mic celebration. Friends, guests, contributors and new visitors gathered online and in person at our sponsor, Words Matter Bookstore to read together. You’ll be able to hear people read from favorite poets like Poe, Whitman and Ginsberg as well as original work–poems about love, nature, history and the lives of poets. It was a wonderful way to celebrate our love for poetry and the first birthday of The Ivory Tower Boiler Room.
As part of the celebration, our Boiler Room team took a turn at the questionnaire that we ask our guests to fill out. Last week our team provided written answers to three of the questions, and we recorded the answers to four others as part of the celebration. You can look forward to us sharing those answers as well as answers from event participants. One thing Adam and Erika discovered was just how hard these questions can be to answer–there might even have been a little sadistic glint in Adam’s eye as we acknowledged this.
And since the questions ask about some of our favorite (and least favorite) things to read and watch, you might want to check out what the team’s been reading, listening to and watching this week…
Since Andrew is back to school, teaching at Stony Brook University, he is rereading texts for both the “Hill We Climb” queer poetry course (yes, that’s an allusion to Amanda Gorman’s incredible poem) and his “Whitman’s Multitudes” course (which is talking back to Whitman’s vision of Democracy). Don’t worry, Andrew will check back in about the texts he’s teaching as the semester progresses, but for this first week back, he was rereading Whitman’s 1851 unpublished poem “Pictures.” His students provided such a creative close reading that teased out how the speaker’s description of the room he’s in is not a physical room, but perhaps the speaker’s brain? Want to learn more read “Pictures” and let us know what you think?
Andrew did fall for the buzz around The Chair, and he finished all of the episodes a day before the semester began. Although there is much to discuss around the representation of crises in academia, in the show, it did give Andrew the energy he needed to prep for his courses. But, if you are curious, definitely check out these essays about the show (spoiler alert):
He’s fallen in love with Mary Wilson’s version of Frankie Valli’s “Can’t Take My Eyes Off You” (and her voice is now soaring in paradise):
And if you haven’t, listen to the Supremes take on “Funny Girl” (it’s so good!):
Mary is still reading Becky Cooper’s We Keep the Dead Close. It’s been an action movie week for her and she’s been watching Nobody starring Bob Odenkirk. She really enjoyed this action movie and says it is totally worth the $5.99 rental on Amazon Prime. She thinks it’s also available on Peacock.
This week Mary has been listening outside of her usual music circle. She has been listening to Post Malone “Circles” and Dua Lipa “Break My Heart.” Both songs are super catchy and have a great beat to listen to while running errands!
Adam has been reading a variety of things this week. It turns out that Robert Caro’s The Powerbroker makes for a surprisingly engaging read during the moments of downtime one inevitably has when visiting someone in the hospital. And of course Adam has been reading through the blogs (and book) of Dr. Karen Kelsky and Kel Weinhold at theprofessorisin.com in preparation for inviting the dynamic duo into the Boiler Room for an interview. Adam has been listening to some of Karen and Kel’s podcasts, as well as a bit of Tom Waits this week (that’s in addition to the usual Bach and Beethoven). But that eclectic grab-bag has still left some time for revisiting some old loves from Postmodern Jukebox. Surprisingly, TV has played a minimal role this week, except for a family-rewatch of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (currently in the middle of season six. Please do not tell Adam’s mom what happens; she is already frustratingly competent at predicting).
Erika has been bingeing Brooklyn 99 this week and is wondering what took so long for her to check this show out. The show is funny, but still manages to bring in some serious issues. She’s also watched some episodes of Bake Squad, and she checked out the movie Booksmart on Hulu; if you’ve been following the saga of Erika and writing a sex scene, she found there was a perfectly awkward sex scene which was exactly the kind of thing she wants to capture. The highlight of her viewing this week has been this documentary “It’s Not That Kind of Camp” about the summer camp she attended as a teenager, the same one that enabled her connection with Adam, and which brought her to The Ivory Tower Boiler Room.
She’s been listening to Bob Mould this week, as a solo artist and with Sugar and with Husker Du. She’s also been listening to Indigo Girls and in honor of Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, she’s listened to a little bit of the Rolling Stones, too.
It’s been a poetry heavy week again to complete Erika’s reading list. Rupi Kaur’s The Sun and Her Flowers was the source for a quote in a post earlier this week. AA Milne’s Now We Are Six was the inspiration for the title of today’s post. Essex Hemphill came up earlier this week during the interview with Sarah Schulman, and has been among the choices this week, and she returned to Pablo Neruda’s Poetry, which she visits often for comfort and inspiration, despite the fact that, by all rights, sexual assault survivors should deface his grave. All the birthday-celebrating and listening to so many wonderful recordings from the open mic events reminds her of the line “And it was at that age that poetry arrived in search of me.”
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What better way for a podcast like ours to celebrate the accomplishments of our first year than by inviting people to join us for an open mic poetry reading? Whether they read their own work or someone else’s, it was a wonderful way for all of us to celebrate a year. Adam, Mary and Andrew hosted an in-person event at Words Matter bookstore in Pitman NJ (our official sponsor) and we thank Keryl (the owner) for sharing the space with us. Erika, the only Ivory Tower Boiler Room team member who isn’t in the Northeast right now, along with Ivory Tower Boiler Room contributors and fellow-non-Northeasterners Cameron Martin and Tiffany Sowa, hosted an online party for anyone who couldn’t join for an in person event.
What you’ll get to hear this weekend are highlights from both of those events–Cameron and Erika read original works, Mary and Andrew read some of their favorites from other poets and Adam, in the spirit of “embracing the and,” gave us a little bit of both. Among our virtual event readers, you’ll also hear from Rusty Rose and Tyler Albertino who have been featured before on our site. In New Jersey, we’ll bring you a selection from a dynamic mother-daughter duo, and from another new-to us reader, a moving poem about learning disabilities, along with many other pieces, some original and read by the authors themselves, and some readings of favorites by other poets.
Some of our previous guests have shared birthday wishes with us and we’ll share those with you, too.
We’ve really been overwhelmed by the support we’ve gotten from you, our readers and listeners, who have encouraged us to to really stretch our vision, and grow from a podcast into something so much more, all in the span of just one year. What started as a way to help navigate the pandemic has changed into something that is encouraging us to look beyond the pandemic and to envision a community for creative people in post-pandemic days. This journey has altered both personal and professional visions for the team members, and connected us to people who, a year ago, we would never have considered might be a part of our circle. The streamers are fading, and we’re getting ready to pause for a few days, catch our breath and begin our second year filled with energy, excitement, and new ideas about who and what we’re going to bring you and how we’re going to bring them to you–check out our new Instagram, for example, for one more way to connect with us as we grow.
Thank you for listening, thank you for reading, thank you for engaging with us on social media and for sharing. Thank you to all of our contributors and to our guests. Thank you to Words Matter Bookstore for sponsoring us. Here’s to writing our next chapter, together.
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Because the Ivory Tower Boiler Room team reflects on listening back to our first ever episode, make sure to listen to that episode first before tuning into today’s podcast release. We don’t want to spoil anything for you (it’d be like eating your cake before having your pizza at the birthday party)!
And don’t forget to listen to some of the older podcast episodes we reference throughout the new episode:
“Growing Up in a Hamlet” (discussion with Dr. Bente Videbaek) , Originally released October 29, 2020
“Grad School Interrupted: A Discussion of Mental Health in the University,” Part 1, Originally released April 1, 2020 Part 2, Originally released April 3, 2020
“Two Writers Are Better Than One”: An Interview with Ula and Kathryn (or as Andrew likes to call her “Charlotte”) Klein Originally Released June 19, 2020
And take a look at some of the writers from our community who get a shout-out during the episode:
We talk about our own weekly series The Big Think–each Monday one of us shares our thoughts on something related to the theme for the month.
We mention our friend and contributor Tiffany Sowa, who has been a big part of the Ivory Tower Boiler Room‘s work.
We also talk about Dr. Karen Kelsky, whose work can be found at The Professor Is In: “We are offering help with your job search and post-ac transition, and reducing rates across the board to be accessible to as many as possible.” Andrew and Adam will be interviewing Dr. Karen Kelsky and Kel Weinhold about their “Professor Is In” podcast and “Professor Is Out” Facebook group. Meanwhile, you can listen to their podcast.
We want to thank all of our listeners, guests and contributors who have helped make this first year happen. We appreciate you and how you inspire us to keep bringing you great interviews, incredible guests, and amazing writing. Thank you for your support and here’s to an even better second year! *
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Widget (grey tabby) Frob (orange tabby, in the back) and Rocket (orange and white creamsicle, in the front) doing their favorite things–leaving fur on furniture and being in the way.
We know you’re waiting to read about what’s coming up this weekend in the Ivory Tower Boiler Room. We’re just as excited to bring it to you. Pour yourself a favorite beverage, get comfortable and take a trip in the not-so-wayback machine to a year ago, when the Ivory Tower Boiler Room had only two residents, before Mary brought in the throw pillows and before Widget, Frob and Rocket lurked about, leaving fur on the furniture and providing scintillating editorial commentary. We’re revisiting episode one this week, when we were anxiously watching COVID numbers spike (oh wait, we’re doing that again,) and listening to dire predictions about the spread of the virus (oh wait, we’re still doing that, too,) and two people created a podcast as a way to reach out to the world and help get through the writer’s block they were experiencing.
We’ve seen how the environment of mutual support has helped writers move past writer’s block, and helped them shape their own visions of themselves as writers. We’ve seen what mutual support can do, and how a community can help sustain us when we’re experiencing a kind of stress and disruption that we’ve never experienced before. None of us knew that a year ago, and we hope you’ll join us as we reflect on that and celebrate what we’ve accomplished.
So many relationships have changed in the last year, whether it’s the way already-existing friendships that Mary, Adam and Andrew had have been transformed through our work together in The Ivory Tower Boiler Room or the introduction of someone totally new into our lives with Erika joining us. Of course, meeting someone new means getting to know them, and just as we try and give you a chance to get to know our podcast guests each week, we’re going to give you a moment to get to know us a little more right now with answers to some of the questions we ask our podcast guests to answer each week. (If you want the answer to the rest of the questions, the ones that talk more about books, you’ll have to keep listening and check out our upcoming open mic night episode.) To pique your interest for that though, here’s a little more about each of us. Do you like to cook? What’s your favorite thing to cook? Mary’s passion for cooking goes back to growing up Italian. One of her favorite things to make is lasagna with homemade noodles!
On the other hand, Andrew’s enjoyment of cooking came to him as an adult. During the pandemic, Andrew really embraced his cooking identity, which he says he definitely would not have felt comfortable with before the pandemic. He loves cooking eggplant parmesan (always a comfort food to him)! He has his sights set on making his raisin-noodle kugel sometime soon (Rosh Hashanah could be the excuse he needs).
Adam has a lifelong passion for cooking breakfast foods–eggs over-easy, omelette, and pancakes being his go-to dishes. Homemade pasta sauces, and some soups and salads are also perennial favorites. Like so many of us, Adam has used his pandemic time to bring some more fermentation into the kitchen, specifically the South Indian staples idli and dosa.
Erika grew up cooking and baking, and loves both. The first thing she learned to cook was scrambled eggs, and she began baking in third grade when her teacher required one research report per month…while getting over strep throat, she learned to bake chocolate chip cookies and always the researcher, Erika soon studied the history of the chocolate chip cookie and learned to bake seven different varieties of chocolate chip cookies which she brought in to her class for a taste test, and then she took the data, analyzed it and presented her results. One of the hardest things about not being able to stand for long periods of time anymore has been how it’s affected cooking and baking, and Erika is still working to adapt her cooking techniques to sitting more (wielding a chef’s knife, for example, is very different.) This time of year she’s thinking of holiday foods, especially things with apples and honey. Some of her plans might include Rosh Hashanah treats like apple cake, apple pie trifle and teiglach.
Did you grow up with video- or computer-games? What were/are some of your favorites?
Andrew grew up with both video and computer games but says he always gravitated towards computer games and especially enjoyed playing creative visionary games like Rollercoaster Tycoon! He wasn’t a fan of violent video games like Halo. One memory that stands out is when his middle school male friends were playing Halo, but Andrew would be reading a book because yes, he was always that bookish.
Mary also found video games as a child and has continued that love on and off throughout her life. Mary is completely obsessed with the game Stardew Valley. This farming simulation gives you the opportunity to mine for ores and precious gems, fish, and even marry the person of your choosing. Stardew Valley has set goals for each farmer to complete, however it isn’t necessary to complete them all. Players can enjoy this game at whichever pace they choose. She finds it to be a very relaxing experience.
As the eldest member of the team, Erika is not quite as old as Pong. Video games and computer games were far less popular when she was growing up, but, because her father worked with computers and saw the value of learning computers from very early on, her family were early adopters of the personal computer, and Erika learned to program her own games. Most video game playing took place in arcades, but Erika’s family did own a pinball machine, and a Nintendo Entertainment System. Erika played a lot of Carmen Sandiego games and then in high school she was a big Tetris fan. She’s still a big fan of puzzle games like Sudoku or match three games, too and sometimes a time management game. Erika is a big board game fan too, and likes to play the game SET either in person or online and also plays games at Board Game Arena sometimes-leave a comment or Tweet her if you’re interested in playing.
Adam grew up watching his older brother play Nintendo and then Super Nintendo; it always mystified him that Aaron was so much better at making the plumber rescue the princess than he was. Despite not having kept up with most of the games it’s based on, the one way to get Adam excited in this otherwise dreary world is Super Smash Brothers. But some old favorites included Earthworm Jim, Command and Conquer: Red Alert, and Halo.
And of course how could we talk to writers without asking each other about writer’s block? So.What’s your favorite excuse for why you have writer’s block? Mary’s favorite excuse is “I’m too tired,” a feeling we’re all familiar with.
Erika thinks this is probably the easiest question she’s ever had to answer about writing and says the answer is “I’m not really a writer.” She knows the validity of that excuse is rapidly dwindling though. Erika admits that fear of writer’s block is a huge obstacle for her and one of the reasons she really puts a lot of pressure on herself to write something every day. Because she had stopped writing for so many years, she worries a lot that if the words go away they won’t come back again. When she gets stuck she’ll often look for a theme or a word in a poem or a song related to what she’s working on to try and loosen things up again. She, like Andrew, has many Google Docs open with different pieces of writing, but for her it’s not avoiding a piece of writing, it’s making sure that if she’s stuck on one there’s something else right there to work on.
Adam’s favorite excuse is he doesn’t know where a story will to go next. But frequent conversations with the other denizens of the Ivory Tower Boiler Room have helped him to remember that the only way to find out where a story will go next is to write it.
Andrew has so many excuses he creates for writer’s block, but they are all unified under one category: Things Needed for Writing Inspiration
What usually happens, he says, is that he has multiple Google documents open and moves from one to the other and works in a piecemeal fashion because he is avoiding his major writing task…the dissertation. But, now that he has recognized that he tends to do this as a writer’s block strategy, he is holding himself to specific days and times for dissertation writing this fall since he needs that accountability for himself. He promises that he will still seek out the self-care needed to get through this writer’s block and says that his daily walks have really helped with this.
We’ve all learned even more about the importance of self-care this year. We work better as a team when we take care of ourselves, we’re better at filling our other roles, too, and one of the things we’re committed to as a team is reminding each other to take time. One of us did that with a bubble bath earlier this week–do you know whose toes these are? While you’re thinking about that, check out our recommendations for what we’re watching, listening to and reading this week.
Mary is currently reading a true crime novel called We Keep the Dead Close by Becky Cooper. She has just finished the White Lotus Hotel! She’s also returned to Bailey Sarian’s Dark History podcast and is listening to the current episode about the Trail(s) of Tears.
Erika’s reading this week has included a lot of research. She’s been working her way through Sarah Schulman’s Let the Record Show as she prepares for the upcoming interview with the author. She’s also been doing a lot of reading about social scripts, condom use among young queer men and with this week’s news about Moderna’s HIV vaccine, she’s been reading a lot of HIV vaccine articles, too. As a break from that she reread Kyle Lukoff’s Too Bright to See. If you read her Big Think earlier this week, you might also have seen that she was reading some of the poetry of Saul Williams, too. She finally went back and finished up the last few episodes of Kim’s Convenience that she hadn’t yet seen and is thoroughly disappointed with the ending. Erika is still watching documentaries and watched season 2 of The Movies that Made Us along with History 101 on Netflix, which is a collection of documentary shorts about 20 minutes in length. Just enough time for a break when writing.
Erika can never decide if the spoken word poetry she gravitates to on YouTube belongs under “Listen” or “Watch” because sometimes she’ll put it on and watch while she’s knitting or something, and other times she’ll open it but put other things in front of it so she can just listen. Either way, she was enjoying some old Def Poetry Jam selections and some things from Button Poetry along with other things she’s compiled into playlists. She pulled out some Five for Fighting to listen to yesterday, and Ani DiFranco’s “Both Hands.” Some of the most intense writing this week has been accompanied by lots of piano music, mostly Shostakovich and Franz Liszt.
Andrew binged Rachel Bloom’s “I Want to Be Where the Normal People Are,” and highly recommends listening to her audiobook because she includes special feature musical numbers! He can’t overstate how much he loves his Libby account (from the public library), and right after Rachel Bloom’s memoir, he just started Casey Wilson’s “The Wreckage of My Presence” which starts with hilarity right away! For Ivory Tower Boiler Room interview preparation, he has been rereading Sarah Schulman’s preface to “Let the Record Show” since he and Erika are interviewing her on Monday. Andrew is halfway through her audiobook read incredibly by Rosalyn Coleman Williams (he’s getting a lot of hours logged in on his Audible app!).
Andrew was awed by the finale of “The White Lotus,” and right after finishing it, he turned to binging “Princesses: Long Island.” It’s such a good watch, and he learned about it from his favorite pop culture podcast, “Behind the Velvet Rope”!
Adam is still listening to the audiobook of The Lord of the Rings and reading a whole bunch of new written material from our own community. One piece he is currently reading is a play called Arden of Faversham, edited by Bente Videbaek.
Adam’s playlist has been a bit more eclectic of late. An email chain with our recent guest Lev Raphael has led to Adam listening to some new composers, including the Piano Quintet by Sergei Taneyev.
It’s been a week since Adam finished watching The Good Place and it’s been hard getting into something new. If you have suggestions, please list them in the comments section.
Now that all of the Ivory Tower Boiler Room team are back in our respective homes, we’re going to continue the extended birthday celebrations with a look back at where it all began.
You may have noticed, if you’ve stuck with us this far, that there’s a lot going on in the Ivory Tower Boiler Room. We just had our first in-person event (with the promise of more to come), we’ve introduced a whole-ass website that’s on its fourth month, complete with Mary’s weekly column True Crime in Academia, guest writers, the weekly Big Think series, and much more (did someone say “book club with actual authors sitting for interviews and answering reader-submitted questions, sponsored by our home-base, Words Matter Bookstore?”) We’ve reached beyond the podcast and writing group, beyond the Facebook and Twitter feed. We launched our website and blog in May, and in the next few months you’ll have a chance to check out the works of our featured writers in a new creative writing section, you’ll see a newly re-designed homepage, and more.
But before we do all of that, we’re taking this month to reflect on the journey that brought us to this point. Looking back, we have so much to be proud of. We’ve been able to bring you some incredible podcasts to listen to. Our mental health episodes, and our continued focus on mental health, our work with Dr Helana Darwin, our interview with Lev Raphael are just a few stand out moments from the past year. Adam and Erika have already weighed in with their respective Big Thinks on how they’ve grown and changed in the past year. The next two Mondays will feature Andrew and Mary and their personal reflections.
But it’s useful to remember that before any of these grand plans, the Ivory Tower Boiler Room was mostly a way for Andrew and Adam to get over their Covid-induced writer’s block. So we thought we (that is, Andrew, Erika, Mary, and Adam) would revisit that very first episode, that first-cold-press of the Eeyore-and-Tigger vibes that have since been the fuel for all of our growth and accomplishment over the past year. We’ll even check in with Andrew to see if he is still simmering with Whitmanic energy. The Boiler Room has gotten a little more crowded since that day (and it’s wheelchair accessible now, too) and the view is a little different one year later. Mary and Erika have added their own flourishes to the place and we hope the Boiler Room is better for it.
So put in your ear-buds, wash those thistles down with a bit of Extract of Malt, and join us for a longing backward-glance at the episode that started it all.
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Mary’s True Crime in Academia is off today. Instead, we’re taking this opportunity to show you a teaser from one of the upcoming projects we’re especially excited about! Starting in September, we’re going to be featuring creative writers on the Ivory Tower Boiler Room website at a rate of one per week. Each writer will take their rightful spot on the homepage as our featured artist for the week, and all of them, past and present, will be accessible to our readers via our library. So if you love reading new writing, make sure to check in starting in September. And if you have some writing you would like to be featured on the blog, make sure to contact us (ivorytowerboilerroom@gmail.com) for details on how to submit. Meanwhile, enjoy this thrilling journalistic piece on one of American LGBTQ+ history’s most (justifiably) unappreciated figures.
courtesy of dreamstime.com
By Guest Writer Tyler Albertario
There are many figures who have become synonymous with the formative years of the LGBTQ rights movement in the United States: Frank Kameny, Marsha P. Johnson, Barbara Gittings, Sylvia Rivera, and others. While these figures’ philosophies, tactics, and roles all differed, no serious person disputes the impact each of these luminaries had on LGBTQ history in the United States.
As the titans of their era, their deaths are marked with obituaries, tributes, and candlelight vigils. Their visages adorn countless monuments, plagues, signs and banners. In a form of living monument to their accomplishments, many of their peers of their time still walk among us, regaling us with tales of victories, as well as setbacks. The moral courage that they displayed throughout their lives continues to inspire and arouse the passions of millions of LGBTQ people in the United States and around the world.
It is perhaps therefore unremarkable that no such commemorations occurred in the wake of December 21, 2018. No “titan of the movement” had passed away that day, so there correspondingly was no such memorial. There were no obituaries, and no tributes, and no candlelight vigils. No plaque or monument is inscribed with their name, and it is very unlikely that anybody ever has — or indeed ever shall — wave a sign or banner in their honor. But somebody did die that day. And they were involved in the movement.
Their name was Lee Craig Schoonmaker.
Born December 20, 1944 in Newark, New Jersey, not much is known about Schoonmaker’s early life. What is known is that he grew up with several sisters and attended Middletown Township High School in Monmouth County, New Jersey, graduating in 1962. Following high school, Schoonmaker remained in Newark for a few years, working several jobs, before finally moving to Manhattan in June 1965. Shortly thereafter, he began to go by his middle name Craig in everyday life.
Not long after arriving in New York, he entered into a long-distance relationship with a man living in Vancouver, Canada. Despite this, Craig Schoonmaker largely stayed clear of the burgeoning gay activist scene which had begun to take hold in New York City. After he enrolled as an undergraduate at City College of New York in the summer of 1968, there remained little indication that that would change anytime soon.
That is, until one night that August.
According to Schoonmaker’s writings, it was that night when, while having a conversation with a fellow gay friend on Christopher Street in Greenwich Village, they were approached by an officer of the NYPD, who instructed them to, “Break it up and move on.” After refusing, Schoonmaker was arrested and spent the night in jail. At his arraignment the next morning, he pleaded not guilty on the basis of constitutional infringement of his First Amendment right to free assembly. The charges were eventually dropped.
Schoonmaker’s case caught the attention of Dick Leitsch, the president of the Mattachine Society of New York. Founded in 1955, the Society was among the oldest of a select few organizations anywhere in New York that catered to the legal and social needs of the city’s gay population. Leitsch, who at the time had been liaising with city officials in an attempt to curtail rampant anti-gay police harassment the likes of which Schoonmaker and his friend had experienced, published a write-up of the case in one of the Society’s newsletters that fall.
Energized by his arrest and the resultant publicity, Schoonmaker informed Leitsch of his desire to form a gay student organization at City College. Leitsch put Schoonmaker in touch with Stephen Donaldson, the founder of the Student Homophile League (SHL) of Columbia University, the first gay student organization on any American college campus. After forming the original Columbia University branch in April 1967, Donaldson had grown SHL into a budding national organization, with affiliate chapters at Cornell, New York University, and plans for one at MIT.
Amidst SHL’s expansion, Schoonmaker wished to add his group at City College of New York to the growing list of official chapters. In order to effect this, he and Donaldson arranged a meeting at Donaldson’s Columbia University dorm room. The encounter, detailed by Schoonmaker in a February 1, 1969 letter to Dick Leitsch, proved to be hostile:
“And, of course, he’s a ‘bisexual’ and thinks it’s just hunky-dory for the majority of the membership of a ‘homophile’ organization to be non-homosexual…. I told him what I thought of bisexuals, that they need not do anything, because they can just ride on the coattails of homosexual activists; that therefore they probably aren’t too upset…”
In addition to his attacks on Donaldson’s bisexuality, Schoonmaker also took extreme umbrage to SHL’s policy of gender-integrated membership. He envisioned his organization — which he intended to call Homosexuals Intransigent! — to be defined in part by an all-male membership:
“The presence of women (girls) at a gay social function is always restricting, and there is no reason whatever for their inclusion, certainly no reason as strong as the reasons for their not being present.”
At the conclusion of their meeting, Schoonmaker claimed that Donaldson promised to have his contacts at City College get in touch with him, but that at the time of his letter to Leitsch — some weeks later — none had.
Despite this brush with Donaldson, Schoonmaker forged ahead with seeking official recognition for his organization. After some creative maneuvering, City College of New York officially recognized Homosexuals Intransigent! as a chartered student organization on April 1, 1969.
Perhaps in part due to Schoonmaker’s calamitous first encounter with Donaldson, official relations between HI! and SHL immediately got off to an inauspicious start. Towards the end of April, SHL-Columbia and SHL-NYU began advertising an event that was to be held May 2nd at the Church of the Holy Apostles, the first “NYC All-College Gay Mixer.” At some point, Schoonmaker offered to have HI! co-sponsor the event. The leaders of the SHL chapters refused, due to Schoonmaker’s policy of enforcing all-male membership within HI!
Chastened by what he felt was an attempt to “boycott HI! out of existence,” Schoonmaker traveled west for the summer, both to spend time with his sisters, as well as to take summer courses at California State University Long Beach and San Francisco State University. It was during this brief stint out west that Schoonmaker missed out on what is often regarded as the seminal event in all of American LGBTQ history: The Stonewall Uprising, where patrons of the Stonewall Inn fought back against NYPD officers attempting to conduct a raid. Schoonmaker returned to City College that fall, determined to capitalize off the events at Stonewall to HI!’s advantage.
His first opportunity to do so was at the Eastern Regional Conference of Homophile Organizations (ERCHO), which took place November 1–2, 1969 in Philadelphia. On the conference’s second day, he stood to speak in opposition to a resolution supporting “Dominion over one’s own body.” The resolution was part of a series of proposals made by a coalition of radical gay liberation groups that had been formed in the wake of Stonewall, and was tailored to support the notion of personal freedom in regards not only to sexual orientation, but also birth control, consumption of drugs, and abortion. And supporting the right to an abortion was something that Craig Schoonmaker could not abide.
During his floor speech in opposition to the resolution, Schoonmaker referred to abortion providers and supporters of abortion rights as “murderers.” The conference immediately flew into an uproar. Martha Shelley, another conference attendee, later wrote of the incident in an essay for Tommi Avicolli Mecca’s book, “Smash the Church, Smash the State!”:
“The older DOB [Daughters of Bilitis] women jumped to their feet and raised hell. I knew from private conversations that one of them had been raped and impregnated and had procured an abortion, at a time when that was illegal and dangerous.”
Ellen Broidy of SHL-NYU proposed a resolution to censure Schoonmaker for his remarks, but Chairman Frank Kameny ruled her motion out of order. In a dramatic move, the delegates then voted to overturn Kameny’s decision by a single vote, 30–29. However, before debate could proceed on the motion to censure Schoonmaker, Broidy withdrew it. The delegates then voted to approve the bodily autonomy resolution by a vote of 39–13.
Ellen Broidy and SHL-NYU’s nearly-successful effort to have him censured at the ERCHO conference infuriated Schoonmaker to no end. His humiliation was compounded when, for the second semester in a row, SHL-NYU refused to co-sponsor an event with HI!, again due to Schoonmaker’s continued policy of not admitting women.
Schoonmaker’s simmering resentment over these perceived slights finally boiled over on November 12, 1969, when he published HI!’s first official newsletter. The newsletter, which Schoonmaker openly admitted to having written while being intoxicated, referred to Broidy by the pejorative slur “Superdike” a total of ten times.
As Schoonmaker continued directing his ire towards Broidy and SHL more broadly, another outcome of the ERCHO conference was beginning to take root: The delegates had voted in favor of a proposal made by Broidy on behalf of Craig Rodwell to dispense with the July 4th Annual Reminder pickets of Independence Hall in Philadelphia, in favor of an event to be held in New York City the following June 28, 1970, the one-year anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising.
To organize the event, Rodwell established the Christopher Street Liberation Day Umbrella Committee (CSLDUC), comprised of members representing the various LGBTQ groups throughout New York City, one of which was Homosexuals Intransigent! It was here where Schoonmaker, as HI!’s official representative to CSLDUC, would make his most significant imprint on LGBTQ history.
At one of the earliest CSLDUC meetings, discussion ensued regarding the terminology which was to be used in official advertising for the upcoming event. A sizable contingent of CSLDUC members favored adopting the term “Gay Power” for the event. However, according to a 2015 interview he gave to the linguistics podcast “The Allusionist,” Schoonmaker offered an alternative term: “Gay Pride,” which the members of CSLDUC voted to adopt. Despite this victory, his simmering hatred for the Student Homophile League and its female members would soon derail any hopes Schoonmaker may have had for any further influence on the movement.
At the February 8, 1970 meeting of CSLDUC, members of SHL-NYU presented Schoonmaker with a letter containing their official response to his newsletter the previous November attacking Ellen Broidy. Published with bracketed commentary from Schoonmaker in HI!’s February 25, 1970 newsletter, it addresses several objections Schoonmaker previously raised regarding SHL-NYU’s open admittance of women as members, as well as allowing heterosexuals to attend meetings, and maintaining discretion regarding individual members’ private sexual lives.
On the subject of Schoonmaker’s antipathy for Ellen Broidy, they write:
“Must every female who exercises leadership be termed a female chauvinist and, if gay, a superdike? She and SHL-NYU told you ‘No’ on the dance issue. You’ve made the matter emotional; you have been told ‘No’ by a woman!!
“We weren’t saying, ‘No, L. Craig Schoonmaker, we shall not dance with you.’ We were saying that the principles your organization represents clash with ours. What we stand for, we dance for.”
Schoonmaker’s behavior during this period did not go unnoticed by others in the gay liberation movement. In their January/February 1970 newsletter, Barbara Gittings’ Philadelphia-based Homophile Action League (HAL) wrote the following of Homosexuals Intransigent!:
“Unfortunately, both the structure of the organization and its first newsletter evidence such infantile male chauvinism and offensive anti-female bias that we cannot extend to this group the warm welcome to the movement that we would like.”
In light of this constant stream of backlash, Schoonmaker and HI!’s fledgling influence on the now-ascendant LGBTQ liberation movement in New York City began to wane. Organizations such as the Gay Liberation Front, the Gay Activists Alliance, Radicalesbians, and Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries took up the mantel of the era, and asserted themselves with a slew of actions which garnered national attention. The Christopher Street Liberation Day March went off better than the members of CSLDUC could have hoped, and it was becoming clear that a new era of LGBTQ liberation was on the horizon. As a result, groups representing the “old guard” of activism such as the Mattachine Society and Daughters of Bilitis began to decline. The Student Homophile League and Homosexuals Intransigent! were not far behind.
As 1970 bled into 1971, HI! continued to wither. Still isolated from the rest of the larger LGBTQ movement due to Schoonmaker’s persistence in limiting full membership to men only, the group’s already sparse membership began to dwindle. Following the Fall 1970 semester, HI!’s longtime vice-president John Singer left for California, leaving Schoonmaker to ponder the impact of his own destructive influence on the group being left unchecked:
“When John was here, the group functioned well…. But once John left, there was only the stick, for no single other member was strong enuf [sic] a personality to offset the very negative aspects of mine. And the organization fell apart…. Now the group has adjusted to the realities of my utter domination and changed in nature to an ultra-militant and purist male organization. For there is no one in the group whose personality is powerful enuf [sic] to offset my presence — unfortunately.”
Singer, for his part, would go on the following year to become the lead plaintiff in a marriage equality test case in Washington State, along with his partner Paul Barwick. Meanwhile, Schoonmaker and Homosexuals Intransigent! continued to falter. In an effort to bring HI! back into the fold, others in the movement began to write to Schoonmaker, beseeching him to shed his misogynistic tendencies. That winter, Gay Liberation Front member Ralph Hall wrote to Schoonmaker in a letter:
“It is sad that you must detest women human beings so. That is the sensitivity [THEY — Establishment] wish male homosexuals to cling to and has been the main reason we males have been divided and separated from our sisters so long.”
Schoonmaker responded in HI!’s March 1971 newsletter:
“It is not women that I resent, nor even womanliness, but rather the constant, infuriating push from all sides for women to intrude upon my life.”
Later in the response, he finally elaborates more thoroughly on his contempt for women:
“Every time I step into and [sic] elevator and can’t breathe because the place reeks of perfume, I am reminded that I dislike womanliness. Every time I walk down the street and hear a woman fifty feet from me setting a cadence with her incredibly noisy high heels, I am reminded of how much I dislike womanliness.”
As it became increasingly clear that Schoonmaker’s gender segregation policies were rooted in a deep-seeded resentment of women in general, HI! disintegrated. When Schoonmaker graduated from City College in 1972, the group effectively ceased to exist.
Although HI! was no more, Schoonmaker continued to pursue a number of interests in the following years. These included HIV denialism and promoting the cause of Phonetic English. He lived in almost complete obscurity until the mid-2000s, when he made the decision to begin publishing his thoughts to a broader audience online, both with his LGBTQ-oriented blog, Mr. Gay Pride, and his more all-purpose political blog, The Expansionist.
For over fourteen years, Schoonmaker used these blogs to hit out at various groups and individuals. One of his posts from 2010 advocated the complete and total destruction of all LGBTQ organizations as presently constituted, to be replaced by “organizations OF gay men, run entirely BY gay men, FOR gay men ONLY.” Lesbians, bisexuals, transgender people, and any other gender-nonconforming person need not apply, at least not according to Craig Schoonmaker.
As the years wore on, and his views on gender separatism began to fall increasingly out of favor in the movement, Schoonmaker needed a new foil. He had long expressed antipathy for transgender people, even referring to gender reassignment surgeries as “atrocities” in an op-ed for Gaysweek Magazine in 1978. However, as increased transgender visibility came to define much of LGBTQ life throughout the 2010s, Schoonmaker sensed an opportunity.
In post after post after post, a common theme emerged: Schoonmaker felt that all transgender people were mentally ill “losers,” and that there existed a grand “Castration Conspiracy” on the part of media figures and medical professionals to castrate as many healthy, virile gay men as humanly possible. To him, efforts to accommodate the medical needs of transgender people represented a “crime against humanity” on par with the Nazi concentration camp experiments performed by Josef Mengele.
So intense was his hatred of transgender people that in June 2016 he issued a call to “distinguished personages” from the gay liberation movement of the 1960s and 70s to join with him in a working group to address the “madness” of transgender visibility and acceptance.
There is no evidence whatsoever that any such “distinguished personages” heeded his call, or even took notice of it.
Despite his preoccupation with his favorite new political scapegoat, Craig Schoonmaker would not be deterred from his original passion, that being his lifelong animosity towards women. Following the victory of Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, he seized the opportunity to promote the result as a repudiation of all things female:
“Hillary’s people thought that this country wants not just a woman President at the head of the Federal Government but even a female Commander in Chief. Radical Feminists have been deluding themselves for decades.”
In addition to reviving his favorite pastime, Schoonmaker made clear that people of color would not be spared his wrath either:
“Is it really a surprise that blacks did not do their duty, in their own interest? Americans are disgusted by the behavior of blacks in this country, in every single area of national activity save sports. No one in major media has dared to touch upon this, but I will. Americans are TIRED of blacks.”
Indeed, in his final years, Schoonmaker laid bare every single hatred and prejudice he had stirring deep within the recesses of his psyche. Whether it was calling undocumented immigrants “invaders” and “lawless barbarians,” or wondering aloud what exactly was so wrong about viewing black people as “enemies to be exterminated,” Craig Schoonmaker left behind no ambiguities in this regard.
And, perhaps all too appropriately, one of the final things Schoonmaker ever wrote in his life hearkened back to the conflict which defined his entire adulthood and smothered his career in activism before it even got off the ground: His seething hatred for women. Responding to accusations of sexual assault against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, he wrote the following:
“If Judge Kavanaugh is NOT confirmed, and the slanderers win, men may have to ratchet up the discord and fight back and make this truly a war, not an unanswered, unending barrage of attacks upon men. Men may have to declare actual, military war against their enemies, and take no prisoners. Now, can we take bets on which gender would win a military war between men and women?”
Less than three months later, on December 21, 2018, Craig Schoonmaker’s imaginary war against the women of the world lost its only fighter.
There was a certain amount of moral courage which went into establishing any group which catered to any slice of the LGBTQ population prior to the Stonewall Uprising. For this reason, Craig Schoonmaker’s actions in forming Homosexuals Intransigent! at the time that he did should be viewed through this lens.
However, situational moral courage alone is not sufficient to cultivate a legacy. Figures such as Sylvia Rivera, Barbara Gittings, Marsha P. Johnson, and Frank Kameny were able to build lasting legacies in part because they were able to articulate a vision that future generations of LGBTQ activists could take up as inspiration. Additionally, while their visions may not have been all-encompassing, they also were not exclusionary.
Craig Schoonmaker spent his entire adult life advocating an exclusionary vision of LGBTQ politics in which white, cisgender gay men wielded all power and influence. As a necessary component of this vision, women, bisexuals, transgender people, and anyone else who did not fit into his rigid sexual and gender binary were not simply irrelevant in Schoonmaker’s eyes, but were his mortal enemies. The very concepts of solidarity and cooperation were alien to him.
To some extent, this exclusionary vision of his is still articulated in some corners of the political landscape, namely by the likes of Milo Yiannopoulos and Lucian Wintrich. The difference being, however, that these unwitting inheritors of his vision are rejected and reviled by all those who believe in the true ideals of LGBTQ equality, and are never mistaken as anything other than reactionary and regressive in nature. Just as these modern-day versions of himself, Craig Schoonmaker spent his entire adulthood being as offensive, affronting, and hostile as humanly possible towards every person whose experience he did not understand. Nobody at any of the marches which bear his proposed nomenclature of “Pride” will ever fly his visage, recite his writings, pay tribute to him, nor even deign to utter his name in the same breath as those figures for whom they do. Craig Schoonmaker failed to build any meaningful legacy at all.
It is for that reason that perhaps the greatest obituary that ever could have been written of Craig Schoonmaker was one that he managed to read while still alive: A letter written by an anonymous acquaintance of his, going by the initials T.M. Published in one of Homosexuals Intransigent!’s final newsletters in 1971, its conclusion reads:
“What I am trying to say is that neither vituperation nor hyperbole have a place in a conscientious, responsible political approach, if only for the reason that such expressions eventually take their toll upon the mind and soul of their expresser. Then there’s nothing — no politics, no truth, no love — no people…. Please don’t lose yourself that way, Craig. You’re too good to go like that.”
My younger kid has always been a big fan of Snoopy. When she was six months old, my sister gave her a stuffed Snoopy puppet, who became known as Puppy, and became her lovie. Puppy is Real to us, just like the Velveteen Rabbit is Real to his boy. Asking Puppy to help do things was sometimes the best way to get her to do things, seeing her try to teach Puppy things we’d been trying to get her to do told us about her readiness to do them. And when she was four, we were driving through North Carolina and we were hungry, so when we saw signs for a diner in Dunn, North Carolina, we decided to pull off and have lunch. As we exited the highway and crossed the overpass, suddenly, ahead of us, in front of the diner, perched atop a red “dog house” was a giant Snoopy.
When Snoopy appeared, a wave of excitement overtook the car. It didn’t come only from the Snoopy fan; everyone in the car was excited, some of us at the sight of a giant Snoopy and some at seeing the children’s excitement. There were shrieks and squeaks, and everyone was talking to Puppy about how exciting it would be to see a giant Puppy in the wild and how we would take pictures of them together. I couldn’t do anything but love that moment of pure joy radiating from my four year old. I did not expect to see a giant Snoopy at the side of a road in North Carolina, and I have been equally surprised by what has happened to me with the Ivory Tower Boiler Room.
The Ivory Tower Boiler Room rose up suddenly and unexpectedly in my life, and I have definitely expressed emotions related to it with what I hope are well-tempered shrieks and squeaks. Both experiences brought tremendous joy, but the giant Snoopy did not also bring moments of the same fear that things in the Ivory Tower have. And while I can compare this photo with a similar one taken a few years later and see the child’s growth, there’s no metric like that for comparing what’s changed for me since I found my way into the Ivory Tower Boiler Room. The things I’ve done, the risks I’ve taken, the ways I’ve grown, the new vision I have, it’s all part of what the Ivory Tower Boiler Room has been a part of for me.
A year ago, while Adam and Andrew were getting the podcast going, I was, as we all were, coping with the collective grief and PTSD of COVID. I was also dealing with all of my new diagnoses and learning to manage life as a disabled person, which for me, means a lot of time spent on what is, essentially, bed rest, in order to keep my feet up to manage symptoms of lymphedema. Everything was frightening and unsettled, everything was chaotic. I craved something stable and consistent when nothing in life felt that way. I’ve told the story before, about how I was looking for something that would give me stability, within the limitations I had (time, finances and of course COVID,) and I’ve talked about how I stopped writing so many years ago. The universe works in mysterious ways though, and for some reason, I decided to take a class on writing feminist midrash–a class would give me a place to be at a set time, and would give me work to do in between that I had to plan for. But writing? I’d given that up. And then I connected with Adam in a summer camp alumni group, and he convinced a rather hesitant me to check out a writing group one day… and I kept coming back, over and over and over again. And then, later on, came the opportunity to collaborate on the mental health episodes, and it eventually grew into where we are now, with a future only constrained by our imaginations and the risks we are willing to take–risks which I am more willing to take because I have the support of of my Ivory Tower team. A year ago I was struggling to put pen to paper, to put words to page. Nine months after I first entered the Boiler Room and I’ve taken a poetry workshop with one of my favorite contemporary poets, I’ve read work at an open mic night, I’m looking at submitting things for publication, and someone asked me if I’d thought about writing a book–someone who is himself a published author. I hadn’t thought about writing a book, but the idea isn’t completely unimaginable either–at least, not anymore, it isn’t. Sometimes I’ll look back at something I’ve written and ask: “Wait who wrote that? A writer wrote that; I didn’t”:
I am sitting here in this broken down body that doesn’t do what I want it to anymore, Remembering the power words had the night a lover watched me dance And when I stopped to catch my breath and drink the ice cold water spraying from the fountain He whispered to me “I love to watch you move. You look like you’re at home in your body.” He devoured me with his eyes the way I gulped down the water. In one moment I understood how words can take up space just like a body.
I have been transformed by my time in the Boiler Room.
I needed the Ivory Tower Boiler Room, only I didn’t know it. I needed a place where people recognized that even in places of high esteem, in places where things seem out of reach, there are people in the basement contributing to everything at the top. In the chemistry lab, the person who washes the beakers has a really important job, but how often are they credited for their role in major scientific discoveries? And what do they know about best-practices that the Principle Investigator would do well to ask their opinion on?
The Boiler Room gives me a (virtual) space where the people with me know how hard it is to learn the art and craft of writing, and of different kinds of writing. It keeps me grounded in that hard work, in the knowledge that I can grow and that with practice, with collaboration, with perseverance, I’ll get to whatever comes next, whether that’s performing a piece, submitting it for publication, or just learning how to craft some other kind of thing I haven’t before. But I imagine it a little like the apartment Laverne and Shirley lived in, in Milwaukee, where the light is coming in, too. I can’t thrive where it’s too bright, and I can’t thrive where it’s too dark, but the Boiler Room is a good place for both. Saul Williams writes in his poem Coded Language:
“We are unraveling our navels so that we may ingest the sun. We are not afraid of the darkness. We trust that the moon shall guide us. We are determining the future at this very moment. We know that the heart is the philosopher’s stone. Our music is our alchemy.” ― Saul Williams
Williams’ poem talks about how we are filled with possibility, but then we take in the messages around us and don’t nourish our creativity, and so we’re left with what exists now. That nourishment is what I found in the Ivory Tower Boiler Room, and one of the things I’ve said in our discussions as we reflect on our first birthday, is that I want to help build a community where people who come to the Ivory Tower Boiler Room in the future to find the kind of nurturing that I found
My Big Think pieces always tend a little towards the omphaloskeptic. I think perhaps the way I can occupy that introspective space is an asset here, it’s what allows me to exist in the space between Andrew’s optimism and Adam’s skepticism. (The lived experience of “embracing the and ” perhaps?) I find this time of year that my gaze goes even deeper, with the approach of the High Holidays (Rosh Hashanah, the new year, then the Days of Awe, followed by Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement.). One of the values that comes into focus at this time of year is the idea of “teshuvah” which is often translated as “repentance” but which literally means “return.” Someone who takes on greater observance is called ba’al teshuvah. In many ways that’s what my Boiler Room time has become…a return to a more authentic, and in many ways, a better version of me. And each of my teammates here has contributed by helping me to find things I need in order to do that. With them, I’ve found persistence,as I continue to work on pieces of writing that have been troublesome or confidence, my voice, the legitimacy of my anger, trust. I’ve taken on that idea of greater observance because of the writing group I found here…I write (or at least try to) every day now. I write in more genres than I did before, although I’m finding that I’m most comfortable in poetry and in memoirs and essays. Taking on the label “writer” is still scary, but I am able to do it. When I first got here I was completely overwhelmed at the idea of being around “real writers.” The first thing I said when Adam suggested I check out the writing group was “I don’t have anything to share.” I spent months, showing up every day, mostly too scared to engage much in the conversations about writing or about books, and definitely not understanding the value of my outsider’s perspective. So much has changed. Am I still anxious? Yes. Of course. But the voices now are muffled a little. I sometimes call myself “a writer.” Sometimes. And with a lot of hesitation, and usually only among people who know that until very recently, I fought against that label. This summer I sat alongside Andrew and had a chance to interview an author whose work has had a tremendous influence on me, and have even been able to get advice from him, and as I write this I’m preparing for another turn in the anchor’s chair next week, and a third one later this year. At the beginning of August, I co-hosted the virtual part of our first anniversary open mic event. My co-hosts were one person who is a published poet, and another who is a college writing teacher. There were nerves to contend with of course, but bit by bit, I am seeing myself in the company of other writers and feeling like I have something to add to the discussion. I understand now that the journey to “writer” isn’t a journey to a destination, but it’s about moving forward to a place where I have enough confidence in my voice to be able to share what I do know with someone who is looking, so that the next “not a writer, not a poet” who comes into the Boiler Room can come in and find a space where people say “It doesn’t matter if you’re a writer or not. If you love writing, if you want to write, then go ahead and write, and we’ll be here to help you figure out how to do that.”
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The Ivory Tower Boiler Room team wants to first thank Lev for being such a collaborative and generous interviewee. When Andrew first reached out to him, the two of them had no idea that one interview would spark enough commentary and writing insight for a three-part series. Lev has become a true writing partner in The Ivory Tower Boiler Room, and here’s some behind-the-scenes gossip (well, not in the Edith Wharton blue-blood sense, but still, we’re pulling back the curtain). Erika is currently taking Lev up on his offer from “How to Write a Sex Scene” (part two of his series), and when Andrew last spoke to Erika (last evening), she is still consulting Lev because (in her own words) “I need to figure out how to just write a sex scene!”
Well, we do pick up right where part two ended with Andrew’s question to Lev: “When it comes to the Jewish Feminist and Queer Jewish literary genres, why do you think they aren’t as mainstream as other genres (especially when picked up by Hollywood)?” Lev gets right into his thoughts and hits a multitude of topics, but if you’ve already listened to parts one and two, this rush of ideas shouldn’t be a surprise. Before giving too much of the episode away, click below to hear the interview and then come back here to check out our favorite moments.
A few highlights in “Coming Out Twice” involve Lev, Andrew, and Erika exploring their own queer and Jewish identities (each is very unique). If you haven’t yet, please read Erika’s Big Think that explores her queer Jewish identity. Lev, who is always wearing his writing-mentor hat, tasks Erika and Andrew with collaborating on a Queer Jewish trauma memoir piece (they hope to begin working on it soon)! If you want Lev to look at your own writing, go to his writing site! He is up for any writing challenge, and is extremely collaborative. And while you’re at it, explore Lev’s writing and links to his oeuvre. You can find a selection of Lev’s work at Words Matter Bookstore (our official sponsor).
There are so many books that are mentioned in this episode, so of course we had to include links to them (we always want our community to continue adding to that bursting must-read list). So, we’ve split these recommendations into three categories (based on Lev’s own writing): Queer Jewish Literature, Jewish Feminist Literature, and Contemporary LGBTQ+ Lit (of course many of the books recommended could fit this final category)
Queer Jewish Literature (check out Lev’s Writing a Jewish Life that sparked this category):
Contemporary LGBTQ+ Literature (these are authors we mention in the episode but for a larger list check out Andrew’s Pride 2021 list, and this category is inspired by Lev and Gershen Kaufman’s Coming Out of Shame)
(Lev Raphael and Gershen Kaufman’s Coming Out of Shame (1996))
P.J. Vernon’s Bath Haus (2021) and Robert Jones Jr.’sThe Prophets (2021) (remember that Bath Haus is our first Book Club choice, so make sure to join us! And The Prophets is our January Book Club choice).
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We hope you’ve got your favorite cake ready for this weekend’s podcast. Saturday is our official birthday, and so after you’ve taken the time to listen to the conclusion of Andrew and Erika’s conversation with Lev Raphael, you can revisit the very first episode , where Adam and Andrew lay out their vision for what the Ivory Tower Boiler Room is. (You’ll hear us reflect on that beginning and where we’ve gone since then next week.)
Frob is sitting on a keyboard because he wants to tell us what he’s reading this week. But he can’t because he’s a cat. Also because he’s a jerk with no sense of personal boundaries.
Since you’re going to listen to the new release of part III of our Lev Raphael interview, don’t forget to check out Part I and Part II before you settle in for the final segment. Andrew and Erika really enjoyed the interview, and you can hear that as you listen. And we are glad to bring you such an in-depth conversation. We look forward to future visits to the boiler room by Lev, and will keep a chair waiting for him.
If you missed Lev’s questionnaire on his first visit, you can check it out here. He’s provided a third set of recommendations for us this week:
“I highly recommend the Israeli thriller Hit and Run on Netflix. A tour guide with an obvious past finds his life completely overthrown when his American wife dies after a hit and run. Two things become very clear very quickly: it was a murder, and his wife had many secrets. The story gets more and more layered as it builds in intensity and moves to New York. This is very dark both thematically and literally: many scenes shot in daylight are quite gloomy, though it isn’t true noir.”
And how could we interview an author without asking them about books? Lev strongly recommended we read Erik Larson. He tells us, “Erik Larson is a justifiably renowned author of popular history, and I’ve been re-reading his books because his eye for detail is sometimes stunning. Dead Wake is the story of the sinking of the Lusitania before we entered WWI, and every page is rich with anecdotes, quotes, information about shipping, an analysis of submarine warfare, and the lives of the many types of people aboard the ships from the ultra wealthy to sailors who jumped another ship to join its crew. Even though you know where it’s headed, the story is still shocking.”
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The Boiler Room residents have their own recommendations for you, of course.
Mary is still rewatching Downton Abbey. She is also watching The WhiteLotus Hotel on HBO with her boyfriend. There is something strange going on at that hotel…
She is still reading Slaughterhouse-Five and is hoping to finish it by the end of the week. So it goes.
For the Time Being by Edie Brickell has been recirculating through Mary’s playlist, thanks again to her boyfriend. This song was introduced to her through the movie The Way Back (again, her boyfriend’s doing) starring Sam Rockwell, Allison Janney, Toni Collette, Maya Rudolf, and Steve Carell.
Andrew wants to let all the Ivory Tower Boiler Room readers know that he’s sending creative energy from the Berkshires where he is currently writing this (may we all be inspired by the creative writing energy found within the mountains).
This week he was embracing his Edith Wharton obsession by taking a walk around the Mount (her estate in Lenox, MA) while listening to Eleanor Bron’s The House of Mirth audiobook (it’s so good!). Of course, he had to find some Erica Jong (after so much discussion about her oeuvre with Erika and Lev Raphael) while driving to the Berkshires so he chose a BBC dramatization of Fear of Flying (again, it’s such a great listen).
Andrew only got a little television viewing in while on vacation, but he did catch up on his Real Housewives of New York and Beverly Hills (guilty pleasure viewing doesn’t go away when he’s on vacation). And, he’s excited to add Adam’s recommendation of Never Have I Ever (on Netflix) to his future viewing list. He’s of course still following The White Lotus (on HBO Max) every Sunday when a new episode comes out. He can only stick with one show at a time (oh but how many new shows he’s adding to his list). Should he start watching Sex/Life next? Weigh in, Ivory Tower community!
Some pool-time reading has happened, and Andrew’s favorite pool-reading is opening up the Book Page magazines and seeing what new releases to add to his “future reading” book list (check out Book Pagehere). He’s ready to get even farther in Boardwalk of Dreams (the Atlantic City history book that Bryant Simon wrote…guess what, he’ll be on our podcast soon)! And, he is continuing listening to Sarah Schulman’s Let the Record Show (the importance of her book is one that he can’t wait to share with the podcast community, and he’s so glad Erika is joining him for that interview).
Erika has been spending a lot of time this weekend paying attention to weather reports; hurricane season in Florida means she’s tracking the path of Tropical Storm Fred right now, but that isn’t the only thing she’s watching, listening to or reading. She’s also been watching the docu-series Pride and has found that revisiting the 80s in particular has reminded her about where some of her passions come from. It’s also been valuable as she’s preparing for another visit to the co-anchor-chair, this time to interview Sarah Schulman with Andrew in a few weeks. She’s also been making her way through Sarah Schulman’s Let the Record Show.
Erika has been listening to the soundtrack from Everybody’s Talking About Jamie again, too. The trailer for the film was released recently and it is right at the top of her list for the week it comes out. And looking ahead, she’s also scouting titles for a book club that we’re hoping to bring you soon.
To help with a little bit of writer’s block this week, Erika went back to a favorite strategy…looking for quotes related to the topic. This week that meant listening to Talking HeadsOnce in a Lifetime, Dan Bern’s Cure For AIDS and Ani DiFranco’s Pick Yer Nose, along with readings from PIrke Avot. Erika still cannot write a sex scene and it is causing her consternation.
Adam and Erika also traded classical music recommendations again. Her suggestion was Telemann’s Viola Concerto in G Major, and she chose this particular recording not just because of the piece, but because of how much the soloist is clearly enjoying the performance. Adam shared Charles-Valantin Alkan’s Preludes. Erika is still a bigger fan of Baroque and Classical era music but has found herself actually voluntarily putting on some of the Romantic composers and grudgingly admits it’s not all melodramatic schmaltz. Most of it is, though.
Adam has continued to inch his way through Wandering Stars by Sholom Aleichem. But it’s been slow going. It’s one of the most delightful reads Adam has encountered in a while but it’s just hard to read when in certain moods, and sometimes those moods last. So most of the ‘reading’ has been spent re-listening to favorite audiobooks. But that’s about to change, because the Ivory Tower Boiler Room is going to be featuring some 16th-17th century English plays pretty soon, not to mention some delightful creative submissions from our community. So will he or nill he, books will soon be read!
Adam finally got around to watching the first few seasons of The Good Place. And… it’s quite excellent. ***SPOILERS*** Isn’t it odd that what starts as a sitcom transforms halfway through into a fantasy-adventure that’s actually about how modern economics makes it impossible to live a good life? Did Michael Schur just punk all of you into watching his take on the premise of The Lord of the Rings?
Meanwhile, Adam has been listening around in some of his usual haunts. The aforementioned works by Telemann and Alkan, of course, but exploring Alkan was part of a larger desire to listen to more Jewish composers: Mendelssohn (“His father converted, but he still counts, dammit”) Songs without Words, Alkan’s Concerto for Solo Piano (“Ok which is it? If it’s for solo piano, it’s not a concerto, right? Am I the crazy one?”) and Swiss-American compoer Ernst Bloch’s Baal Shem: Scenes from Chassidic Life for violin and orchestra. The third movement of Baal Shem is particularly interesting because it gives a window into how Swiss-Jewish folk-music might have sounded different from the more Slavic-influenced Jewish folk music Adam is used to. Adam also has a bit of special news in the piano-practicing department, which is that he has finally played through all of Chopin’s Ballade #1 in g minor. It doesn’t sound particularly good. That’s the next step.
What are you listening to these days? We’d love to hear from you!